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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211260758" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211260758">(Sep 25 2020 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>So the surveys are closed and we have to organize the processing of the survey data. There are a few parts of this:</p>
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<li>Translating survey results into English and collating the data</li>
<li>Reading and coding those results into some usable format</li>
<li>Trying to shape a story out of the data and look for trends</li>
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<p>The first bullet is for all of you wonderful translators to do. The only catch is that I don't quite know how to collate the data usefully -- did we just make copies of the google spreadsheets last time? I don't think I was involved in this part, but I'm sure others remember.</p>
<p>I'm looking into seeing if I can do a contract to handle the second bullet. It's looking like "maybe to probably", I hope to have something setup there soon.</p>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> mentioned an interest in helping with the third bullet, once that gets underway.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211260769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211260769">(Sep 25 2020 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does that all sound right or am I missing something :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211301941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211301941">(Sep 25 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw, 6393 English responses</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211334705" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Bruno Tavares <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211334705">(Sep 26 2020 at 01:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>If I'm not mistaken - last year we translated using the spreadsheet results, as a new tab for English version</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211498798" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211498798">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="220306">@Bruno Tavares</span> ok, that workflow makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211499308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211499308">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK so <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="*">@stream</span> I would appreciate it if you could update the <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EiPk00mKAH5CSaUnnjySGxwMuq3NX1ux1Ci3u9C5COg/edit">coordination doc</a> with some notes on the translation status for your language and where to find results. You'll also find the set of folks who volunteered for each language, so maybe you can coordinate with each other to share out the effort.</p>
<p>(Also, apologies for the mass-ping; maybe I should setup a user group for "all translators"...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211499579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211499579">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> do you want us to write directly as a list item for our language ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211503081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211503081">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="307289">@Poliorcetics</span> yeah I think that'd be easiest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211503167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211503167">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Done for French then, we also have a [fr] stream here to coordinate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211555460" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211555460">(Sep 28 2020 at 21:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've completed the <code>[IT]</code> translation of the free-form answers. I don't remember last year how we decided to manage fixed form ones (such as buttlet points). Was it possible to infer the choice from a bullet/check answer even if the question text was  in another language? <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> do you recall anything about this by any chance? <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span> <br>
I might go all in and translate anything to be sure it's as close as possible to the English version</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211556859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211556859">(Sep 28 2020 at 22:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>While I'm not sure how data exported from Google forms look like, for Simp Chinese version I built a tool <a href="https://github.com/upsuper/csv-translator">csv-translator</a> last year to extract unique answers of each question from csv into a YAML file and then merge the result back into a translated csv. Maybe it can be useful for other languages as well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211588252" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211588252">(Sep 29 2020 at 07:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>interesting tool <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250949">@Xidorn Quan</span>, I'll check that out - thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211611945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211611945">(Sep 29 2020 at 12:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey folks, is it realistic to have all the translations done by end of next week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211612032" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211612032">(Sep 29 2020 at 12:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>If that's not possible, please say so; I'm not trying to crack the whip, just to establish a date for planning purposes.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211613991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211613991">(Sep 29 2020 at 12:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>By next week do you mean by 11 Oct? For Simp Chinese, I think it's feasible. <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116458">@Charles Lew</span> and I are making good progress.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211615389" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jan Danielsson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211615389">(Sep 29 2020 at 12:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's in the realm of "realistic" to get the Swedish translation done until then, but I'll be able to say more definitively at the end of _this_ week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211618672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211618672">(Sep 29 2020 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="*">@stream</span>, so I was just talking to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> and he's going to take over the coordination role here -- i.e., he'll be checking up on translation status and contacting folks as necessary, as well as helping drive the analysis. So if you get some pings from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> don't be surprised! <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211619425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211619425">(Sep 29 2020 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey everyone <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> Looking forward to working with all of you!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211655168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211655168">(Sep 29 2020 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="250949">Xidorn Quan</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/211556859">said</a>:</p>
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<p>While I'm not sure how data exported from Google forms look like, for Simp Chinese version I built a tool <a href="https://github.com/upsuper/csv-translator">csv-translator</a> last year to extract unique answers of each question from csv into a YAML file and then merge the result back into a translated csv. Maybe it can be useful for other languages as well.</p>
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<p>This is fantastic!!!</p>



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<p>I think I don't have access to the <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZLs_JkvrvkTOH_5XxV388PkmU5Ws7ZIy?usp=sharing">shared folder</a> for survey data (<a href="mailto:avrongru@gmail.com">avrongru@gmail.com</a>). May I have access to it to start with Russian translation?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211737111" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211737111">(Sep 30 2020 at 09:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Done! <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211738934" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211738934">(Sep 30 2020 at 10:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've created a <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing">spreadsheet</a> to get a good overview of which translations are started, which are not started and which are finished. Please make sure that the spreadsheet correctly reflects your language's status. And please let me know if getting the translation done by the 12th of October seems reasonable to you. <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211739486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211739486">(Sep 30 2020 at 10:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250949">@Xidorn Quan</span> you mentioned that you've already started the translation, but I don't have a link to the document. Can you add a link to the document in the <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing">status spreadsheet</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211739731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211739731">(Sep 30 2020 at 10:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, if possible it would be great to have the translations as a separate sheet tab from the original answers. This will make exporting easier.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211743153" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211743153">(Sep 30 2020 at 10:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>As I mentioned before, We're not using a spreadsheet to translate. I developed a tool <a href="https://github.com/upsuper/csv-translator">csv-translator</a> last year for this purpose. This tool transforms the CSV into a more translatable YAML file, and we use a private GitHub repo to coordinate translation.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211743553" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211743553">(Sep 30 2020 at 11:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Actually I'd like to recommend this approach to other languages' team as well, as I find it much more productive and less error-prone than translating inside spreadsheet, and you have more flexibility on the process. For example, we create issues to track what questions need to be translated, and collaborators can assign themselves to the issues so we don't conflict. If some team has enough time and energy, they can even introduce a review process.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211743935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211743935">(Sep 30 2020 at 11:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do you plan on uploading the csv to the folder when finished?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211744140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211744140">(Sep 30 2020 at 11:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do, but since data of Simp Chinese one isn't from Google Forms, the data arrangement may be a bit different. If we are using spreadsheet I probably need to adjust it a bit before uploading. Last year I just sent the translated CSV file directly to someone :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211744288" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211744288">(Sep 30 2020 at 11:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>We'll need to get the data into the same format as the others so that it can be aggregated. We can coordinate this when you're done with the translation.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211748890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211748890">(Sep 30 2020 at 11:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can see there are some differences in format. I'll figure that out. Probably another program would be necessary...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211750547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211750547">(Sep 30 2020 at 12:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>And we're actually quite close to finishing the translation of Simp Chinese now. The current progress is about 37/39 done, with some additional summarizing up stage work.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211887007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211887007">(Oct 01 2020 at 09:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="337487">@QQ</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="251264">@Chiu Hsiang Hsu</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="153740">@Igor Matuszewski</span> just checking in on status. The status sheet says you've not yet begun the translation process. Just wondering if you think having the results done by the 12th of October seems reasonable.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211899387" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211899387">(Oct 01 2020 at 12:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Translation of Simp Chinese answers has all done. I'll look into transforming the result into the same format as English version this weekend.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211901851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QQ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211901851">(Oct 01 2020 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> I think  Oct 12th would be fine for Vietnamese responses as there are not many, I can start by this weekend.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/211920977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#211920977">(Oct 01 2020 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250949">@Xidorn Quan</span> that workflow with a github repo sounds quite clever :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212123624" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yerkebulan Tulibergenov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212123624">(Oct 02 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="224872">Ryan Levick</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/211738934">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I've created a <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing">spreadsheet</a> to get a good overview of which translations are started, which are not started and which are finished. Please make sure that the spreadsheet correctly reflects your language's status. And please let me know if getting the translation done by the 12th of October seems reasonable to you. <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>
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<p>I think Russian translation can be done by October 12.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212198047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212198047">(Oct 04 2020 at 00:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we have English version of result spreadsheet for reference? I see that results of different languages have some minor differences, e.g. on timestamp format.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212214521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212214521">(Oct 04 2020 at 09:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="250949">Xidorn Quan</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/212198047">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Do we have English version of result spreadsheet for reference? I see that results of different languages have some minor differences, e.g. on timestamp format.</p>
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<p>Are you looking for <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u3DdmXx0NvPOpBPfNvYXWdYuW4k1LeZWtsKB3o9htUw/edit#gid=1552069056">this file</a> perhaps?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212215568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212215568">(Oct 04 2020 at 09:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Looks like yes, thanks. But what's "Carimbo de data/hora" I wonder <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212216224" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212216224">(Oct 04 2020 at 10:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>the timestamp of when the survey was submitted. I think colums headers are not so important as files will likely be parsed by column number.</p>
<p>For example, we will trust that in any CSV we translators produced the column <code>AX</code> matches the question "What is your experience with other tools you use? [rustdoc or cargo doc]"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212216351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212216351">(Oct 04 2020 at 10:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmmm... it matters for us because I need to ensure that I do have the right columns match up, as Simp Chinese used a different survey system.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212216569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212216569">(Oct 04 2020 at 10:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see. I don't have clear why the column name matters but I guess it's not important :-) Like you said, what matters is that at the end you can produce a csv that conforms all the others (in terms of: same column == same question).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212220410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QQ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212220410">(Oct 04 2020 at 12:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh gosh, I think I messed up the translation status sheet's permission, <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit#gid=0</a></p>
<p>I wanted to work on the responses sheet but ended up editing the wrong sheet.  <br>
Can someone help to fix my bad, really sorry? <span aria-label="face palm" class="emoji emoji-1f926" role="img" title="face palm">:face_palm:</span>‍♂️  <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span>  <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212222728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212222728">(Oct 04 2020 at 13:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="337487">QQ</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/212220410">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Oh gosh, I think I messed up the translation status sheet's permission, <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit#gid=0</a></p>
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<p>I can edit the "translation status sheet"  file and looking at the revision history I don't see any changes.<br>
Which change exactly can't you revert? Which file you wrongly edit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212226415" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chiu Hsiang Hsu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212226415">(Oct 04 2020 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> I think 12th Oct will be fine for Traditional Chinese response translation.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212242388" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QQ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212242388">(Oct 04 2020 at 21:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="250987">apiraino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/212222728">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="337487">QQ</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/212220410">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Oh gosh, I think I messed up the translation status sheet's permission, <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit#gid=0</a></p>
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<p>I can edit the "translation status sheet"  file and looking at the revision history I don't see any changes.<br>
Which change exactly can't you revert? Which file you wrongly edit?</p>
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<p>I messed up the original  sheet's permission, I had to duplicate it to another sheet to edit. I think someone has fixed now. Thanks.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212247942" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212247942">(Oct 05 2020 at 00:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250987">@apiraino</span>  It's important to verify any transform I do would be correct. It seems the header of English response is quite poor, there are some header text disappears. I'll probably refer to other languages instead...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212248279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212248279">(Oct 05 2020 at 00:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250987">@apiraino</span> It seems that you can't really rely on order. For example, the order of question series "How would you rate the difficulty of learning these concepts/topics?" doesn't match between Japanese version and English version. Since all of them have the same answer set, you won't be able to realize it if you simply ignore the header text and use their order. Also cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="251993">@tanakakz</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212252077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212252077">(Oct 05 2020 at 02:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Result for Simp Chinese has been processed to match English response format and uploaded to the spreadsheet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212267745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212267745">(Oct 05 2020 at 07:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="250949">Xidorn Quan</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/212248279">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="250987">apiraino</span> It seems that you can't really rely on order. For example, the order of question series "How would you rate the difficulty of learning these concepts/topics?" doesn't match between Japanese version and English version.</p>
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<p>Now I see what you mean. I'll have a second look to my version in the following days.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212404323" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DH <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212404323">(Oct 06 2020 at 09:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm currently translating text area answers only. But found that others did find and replace for all the questions and choices. Will it be ok to keep doing as I do currently?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212404486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DH <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212404486">(Oct 06 2020 at 09:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, almost everyone is doing the translation of everything in the result CSV. Once I'm done with the text area answers, I'll try to do "find and replace" that way.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212544419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212544419">(Oct 07 2020 at 11:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="153740">@Igor Matuszewski</span> I don't believe we've heard from you whether having the translations done by the 12th of October seems reasonable. Let me know if that sounds good to you!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212544469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Igor Matuszewski <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212544469">(Oct 07 2020 at 11:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> sounds good, sorry for replying so late!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212544558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212544558">(Oct 07 2020 at 11:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>No worries! <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212544615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212544615">(Oct 07 2020 at 11:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Looks like we're on track for everyone getting their translations in by the 12th. I'll check in with everyone on Friday to ensure we're still good to go.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212549493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Igor Matuszewski <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212549493">(Oct 07 2020 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> done, although it only has 5 responses and the survey was botched for non-users - we only got results from sections 13 and onwards...</p>



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<p>hopefully that's still useful.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212550859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212550859">(Oct 07 2020 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks! That's a shame, but I think this will still be useful.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212911078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chiu Hsiang Hsu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212911078">(Oct 10 2020 at 11:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> FYI, the Traditional Chinese translation is done!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212917181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ludwig Stecher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212917181">(Oct 10 2020 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>German translation is _almost_ finished!<br>
Should I translate countries, states and cities, too, if possible?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212921242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212921242">(Oct 10 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198276">Ludwig Stecher</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/212917181">said</a>:</p>
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<p>German translation is _almost_ finished!<br>
Should I translate countries, states and cities, too, if possible?</p>
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<p>Personally I've decided to not translate them (just translated the countries name).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/212969703" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tanakakz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#212969703">(Oct 11 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>The JP responses has been translated.<br>
Please let me know if any other processing is required.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213016579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213016579">(Oct 12 2020 at 09:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198276">@Ludwig Stecher</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="209053">@Iñaki Garay</span> Can you please update the status spreadsheet if you're finished with the translations? <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing</a> If you're not finished, can you please let me know when you hope to be? The goal was to have them finished by today, but I understand if life got in the way <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213056986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ludwig Stecher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213056986">(Oct 12 2020 at 16:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> German translation is finally finished and the status in the spreadsheet is updated.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213057284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ludwig Stecher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213057284">(Oct 12 2020 at 16:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I noticed that some answers are duplicated. This looks like a bug in Google Forms. Line 21/22 are identical, same with line 175/176. The probability that this is a coincidence is near zero I believe</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213077484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213077484">(Oct 12 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="224872">Ryan Levick</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/249854-t-community.2Frust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data/near/213016579">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198276">Ludwig Stecher</span> <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="209053">Iñaki Garay</span> Can you please update the status spreadsheet if you're finished with the translations? <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rswdGFhzrm3C3i6Y03Gxg8Fg6XXa5bcAOFFYgfIaidA/edit?usp=sharing</a> If you're not finished, can you please let me know when you hope to be? The goal was to have them finished by today, but I understand if life got in the way <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>
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<p>Sorry for the delay, Spanish is done!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213177493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DH <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213177493">(Oct 13 2020 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm done with Korean translation. This year, over 100 people answered with the Korean version.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213177610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213177610">(Oct 13 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>This is great news! That means all of our translations are done! <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213177733" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213177733">(Oct 13 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>woot!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213178264" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213178264">(Oct 13 2020 at 16:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks again to all of our translators. This wouldn't be possible without you!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213375350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DH <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213375350">(Oct 15 2020 at 02:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have a quick question for years to come. Has anybody written a tool to translate questions and non-text area answers back to English in the result spreadsheet? Last year I didn't translate those parts of the result. So this year I underestimated the amount of the effort to do the mapping and it took quite much time actually.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213375591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Xidorn Quan <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213375591">(Oct 15 2020 at 03:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="252308">@DH</span> maybe you can have a look at my csv-translator :) <a href="https://github.com/upsuper/csv-translator">https://github.com/upsuper/csv-translator</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213377864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DH <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213377864">(Oct 15 2020 at 03:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250949">@Xidorn Quan</span>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213420908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213420908">(Oct 15 2020 at 13:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I too wrote my own tool in an afternoon, after trying out csv-translator. I really like csv-translator's approach and will give it a closer look next time as well. <br>
The main issue I had was with multiline long answer responses, either the tool, google spreadsheet import or output, or the interaction between them, produced errores in some rows.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing%20survey%20data/near/213452743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/249854-t-community/rust-survey-2020/topic/processing.20survey.20data.html#213452743">(Oct 15 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Another option is writing either a spreadsheet script in js, or interfacing with the g spreadsheet api</p>



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<p>This would constitute a poor man’s translation memory</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="209053">@Iñaki Garay</span>  I just tested some simple data from google spreadsheet, and it seems line breaks just become escaped <code>\n</code> in the yaml, and they are correctly converted back, so it seems to work as expected. But if you do see any issue, please let me know!</p>



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